The tangled web of anti-anti-immigration argumentation

Bob Higgs:

​”Well, people claim, if you have a welfare state, the masses of the world will flood into the USA just to collect the welfare state’s ‘free stuff.’ But why let them? Even under currently existing rules, undocumented immigrants are ineligible for nearly all welfare-state benefits. If a flood of immigrants will break the welfare-state bank, why not simply make immigrants ineligible? Case closed. In that case, the opponents of immigration claim that making the immigrants ineligible for welfare-state benefits won’t work because they will find a way to get the stuff in one way or another. But this objection is, in effect, a declaration that the state is incompetent — which is not exactly a news flash, to be sure. So the anti-immigrationists insist that instead the government must ‘close the borders.’ Notice, however, that in this case the anti-immigrationists, having just insisted that the government is too incompetent to exclude ineligible immigrants from welfare-state benefits, now presume that the government is so competent that it can keep undocumented immigrants out of the country.” 

OK. So if the government is so incompetent that it can’t, just can’t, keep people out, why do anti-anti-immigrationists  expend so much energy trying to stop the government keeping people out? Isn’t it because, all the “If you build a 50ft wall someone could build a 51ft ladder” waffle notwithstanding, they know very well that governments, when they put their mind to it, are anything but incompetent when it comes to keeping people out? Otherwise why make such a song and dance out of it? 

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4 thoughts on “The tangled web of anti-anti-immigration argumentation

  1. “OK. So if the government is so incompetent that it can’t, just can’t, keep people out, why do anti-anti-immigrationists expend so much energy trying to stop the government keeping people out?”

    Two reasons:

    1) Trying to keep people out is morally wrong; and

    2) Trying to keep people out is costly and economically damaging whether it works or not. Granted, the better it works the more costly and economically damaging it gets, but even if it’s completely ineffectual every penny spent on it is a penny stolen and malinvested.

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    1. Yeah not wanting to let savages come and rape your children, gang rape your women, rob you, and murder you in the streets, while you get taxed to fuck to give them free houses, free healthcare, free schools for their fucking rat kids, forever until they outbreed you out of existence is immoral, and anyway it’s too expensive to just tell them to fuck off and put up a fence with some barbed wire on top, much more expensive than housing them, feeding them, funding police and courts to deal with the crime they commit, and pandering to their every fucking whim for all eternity because they’ll become terrorists otherwise etc etc etc.

      Yes. Good goy. Shlomo will be pleased with you.

      You might as well be a fucking jew, you cock sucking faggot. Fuck off.

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  2. yeah knowing about crime stats is completely insane, knowing about behavioural genetics is completely insane, knowing about psychometrics is completely insane, knowing about Bayes’ theorem is completely insane, noticing patterns is completely insane, being aware of basic facts is completely insane.

    Like I said, you might as well be a fucking Jew.

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